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For next Sunday (11/30), please read Chapters 16-19 (pages 126-165). 
 
Then, in around 250 words, please write a reflection on anything you would like to talk about regarding the book. It could be an analysis of a character, object, quote, or specific scene that really caught your eye, or it could be a larger idea or observation that you have regarding the book. Why do you find it interesting? How do you think that observation or analysis impacts the rest of the book? 
 
If that's too much freedom, I have suggested a couple of questions that you could answer instead:
 
1. Do you think Holden is too individualistic and nonconformist, or do you think society is the problem? Why do you think so? 
 
2. Holden is what one might call an "unreliable narrator," especially since he claims to be a liar himself. What are some things that he has told us in the book that may not be entirely true? 
 
3. In Chapter 13 (p. 99), Holden says, "I'm one of these very yellow guys. I try not to show it, but I am." What does he mean by "yellow"? What does his imagined confrontation in the next two pages (p. 99-100) say about him as a person? What might it say about how Holden views himself versus how others see him? 
 
4. Discuss Holden's relationship with Sally. What was your reaction to his outburst at the end of Chapter 17? What do you think it reveals about Holden? 
 
Please submit this response to the forum by next Saturday (11/29) at 11 pm.
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The relationship between Holden and Sally seemed like kind of boyfriend and girlfriend, but in my mind, they were actually not. In this book, the author mentioned two girls who were around Holden, Jane and Sally. We can learn that Holden pay much attention on both girls. When he ‘escaped’ from his secondary school, the first girl he thought was Jane, but there were many reasons made Holden can’t meet with Jane. That probably caused him to date with Sally but not Jane. The description of Jane in this book is mainly about her movement and her habit of doing many things, however the description of Sally are more of her appearance like. In that case, I think Holden treated Jane using his heart, but love Sally because of her beauty.

In chapter 17 Holden and Sally have a date and Holden told Sally to elope with him, but Sally disagree with him and they separated in the end. From this event, we can know that Holden was a kind of guy who always thinks of escaping when he met a problem. If I am Sally, I also won’t go with him, because he doesn’t have any responsibility to his family and friends.

Originally Posted by Zhou Jingyi:

The relationship between Holden and Sally seemed like kind of boyfriend and girlfriend, but in my mind, they were actually not. In this book, the author mentioned two girls who were around Holden, Jane and Sally. We can learn that Holden pay much attention on both girls. When he ‘escaped’ from his secondary school, the first girl he thought was Jane, but there were many reasons made Holden can’t meet with Jane. That probably caused him to date with Sally but not Jane. The description of Jane in this book is mainly about her movement and her habit of doing many things, however the description of Sally are more of her appearance like. In that case, I think Holden treated Jane using his heart, but love Sally because of her beauty.

In chapter 17 Holden and Sally have a date and Holden told Sally to elope with him, but Sally disagree with him and they separated in the end. From this event, we can know that Holden was a kind of guy who always thinks of escaping when he met a problem. If I am Sally, I also won’t go with him, because he doesn’t have any responsibility to his family and friends.

Jingyi, great discussion of the nature of Sally and Holden's relationship in contrast with his relationship with Jane. What you say in the second paragraph is correct--Holden does seem to want to escape whenever he is confronted with a problem. He also does this when he was first kicked out of Pencey Prep, and instead of facing his parents, he chooses to escape to New York City for a while. As we read the chapters for next class, we will see another example of his tendency to run away from his problems and responsibilities, as you say. 

 

Attached is your reflection with grammatical corrections. 

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